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Apr 15 2006, 01:08 AM
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Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Root Admin Posts: 448 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Ann Arbor, MI USA Member No.: 1 |
MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY
Ver 2.2 The goal is to instill masculinity in men, femininity in women, and establish a limited government! By instilling masculinity in men, we make men self-reliant, proud, and independent. By instilling femininity in women, we make them nurturing, supporting, and responsible. By working for a limited government, we are working for freedom and justice. That women have other qualities is not interesting to men because we don't need them! Femininity will be the price women pay for enjoying masculinity in men! This is the aim of "Men Going Their Own Way". By holding this point of view, we are helping other men and, more importantly, we are helping boys grow up to become men. This goal is to take away everybody's "right" to vote on other people's affairs thus rendering it impossible for political organisms and ideologies to impose their will on all people. It is not about reinstalling patriarchy or revoking female voting rights or making socialism illegal. It might have this as a side effect, but not directly, and not as a political ideology. Only the future will show what happens, and by going our own way we are preparing men and boys for that future. It is important for men to have a practical approach to implementing our strategies. PRIME STRATEGIES THAT COMPLIMENT OUR PRODUCT AND GOAL We have 3 main strategies: 1. Instilling masculinity in men by:
We hold women equally accountable to men and ignore and shun those who refuse such accountability. Thus we induce women to take a complementary position with men instead of a competitive position as is now the case. Feminine qualities we want from women:
In order to be independent of society, and live within it, while at the same time work for limiting governmental influence upon our daily lives, men will:
MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY This is the logo: ![]() Every man supporting this idea is welcome to use the logo in this or similar contexts. What we do as activism or the way we behave personally are the main tactics.
The mens movement does actually cover a much larger picture. By instilling masculinity in others, as well as yourself, you will actually be improving the lives of everybody, including women and children. IF IT?S NOT RIGHT, GO YOUR OWN WAY! Take care brother! |
| Egghead |
Mar 6 2007, 04:30 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: MGTOW Brother Posts: 117 Joined: 28-July 06 From: Central Illinois, USA Member No.: 45 |
edwal over at NG's has provided a Spanish translation:
QUOTE HOMBRES YENDO POR SU PROPIO CAMINO ver. 2.2 El objetivo es inculcar masculinidad en hombres, feminidad en mujeres, y trabajar por un gobierno limitado. Al inculcar masculinidad en los hombres, los hacemos autosuficientes, orgullosos e independientes. Al inculcar feminidad en mujeres, las hacemos amorosas, comprensivas y responsables. Al trabajar por un gobierno limitado, estamos trabajando por la libertad y la justicia. ¡Mujeres con cualidades distintas no interesan a los hombres, porque no las necesitamos! ¡La feminidad será el precio que las mujeres paguen por disfrutar de la masculinidad en los hombres! Este es el objetivo de “Hombres yendo por su propio camino” Al sostener este punto de vista, estamos ayudando a otros hombres y, mucho más importante, estamos ayudando a los muchachos a crecer y convertirse en hombres. Esta meta es quitar el “derecho” de todos a votar acerca de los asuntos de otras personas, por tanto haciendo imposible que organizaciones e ideologías políticas impongan su voluntad personal sobre todos los demás. No se trata de reinstalar la patriarquía, revocar el derecho femenino al voto o hacer al socialismo ilegal. Podría tener esto como un efecto secundario – pero no directamente, y no como ideología política. Sólo el futuro mostrará lo que pase y, al ir por nuestro propio camino, estamos preparando a hombres y muchachos para ese futuro. Es importante que los hombres tengan un enfoque práctico en la implementación de nuestras estrategias. ESTRATEGIAS PRINCIPALES PARA ALCANZAR NUESTRAS METAS Tenemos tres estrategias principales: 1. inculcar masculinidad en los hombres: Demandando respeto por los hombres Sirviendo como buenos ejemplos masculinos Viviendo vidas independientes Combatiendo la caballerosidad 2. inculcar feminidad en las mujeres Haremos a las mujeres igualmente responsables ante los hombres, e ignoraremos y evitaremos a aquellas que rehúsen aceptar la responsabilidad de sus propias circunstancias. De esta manera, animamos a las mujeres a tomar una posición complementaria ante los hombres en lugar de una posición competitiva, como es el caso ahora. Cualidades femeninas que queremos de las mujeres: Cariño Comprensión Responsabilidad Respeto Honestidad 3. Gobierno limitado Para ser independientes de la sociedad, y vivir dentro de ésta, al mismo tiempo que trabajando para limitar la influencia gubernamental sobre nuestras vidas diarias, los hombres: Irán Por Su Propio Camino Apoyarán a otros hombres Reducirán legalmente cualquier contribución impositiva Ejecutarán con sinceridad sus deberes de acuerdo con su conciencia Usarán cualquier derecho para el beneficio de otros hombres, así como para el propio Son estas tres estrategias que se unen para formar una. HOMBRES YENDO POR SU PROPIO CAMINO Este es el logotipo: Todo hombre que apoye esta idea es bienvenido a usar el logotipo en este contexto o en otros similares. Lo que hacemos como activismo o la forma en que nos comportamos personalmente son las tácticas principales. Usando un logotipo que simboliza la estrategia. Dirigiendo uno o más sitios web y foros que promueven esta. Dirigiendo uno o más sitios web que cuentan la verdad sobre el feminismo. Proporcionando pegatinas, camisetas, etc. con declaraciones variadas, tales como “¡La Caballerosidad ha muerto!” Escribiendo artículos apoyando nuestro producto. Produciendo música que promueva nuestro producto. Efectuando eventos internacionales y reuniones locales. Estableciendo clubes masculinos. Boicoteando ciertos productos. Ustedes estarán básicamente haciendo esto solos. No hay organización que los apoye. Ustedes simplemente irán por su propio camino y harán lo que crean que es correcto. Nunca estarán obligados más allá de su propia conciencia. La verdadera masculinidad se trata también de aceptar los derechos de otros hombres, y de no defraudarlos para conseguir beneficios personales de corto plazo. El movimiento de hombres en realidad cubre un panorama mucho más grande. Al inculcar masculinidad en otros, así como en ustedes mismos, ustedes realmente estarán mejorando las vidas de todos, incluyendo mujeres y niños. ¡SI NO ES CORRECTO, VE POR TU PROPIO CAMINO! ¡Cúidate hermano! Los logotipos MGTOW y el Manifiesto MGTOW son de dominio público, explícitamente diseñados de ese modo por sus creadores (los hombres de MGTOW) para ser usado por cualquiera con el propósito de promover MGTOW. Mayo 1, 2006 |
| Ragnar |
Mar 6 2007, 07:55 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: MGTOW Brother Posts: 635 Joined: 28-March 06 From: Copenhagen, Denmark Member No.: 2 |
Thanks Egghead
Now I better try to find the German version I got somewhere - it's a version 1,0 - though! EDIT; Damn, I got it somewhere . . . know that |
| Carnival of reaction. |
Mar 22 2007, 09:11 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: MGTOW Posts: 55 Joined: 25-June 06 From: London and Essex. Member No.: 39 |
Thanks Egghead Now I better try to find the German version I got somewhere - it's a version 1,0 - though! EDIT; Damn, I got it somewhere . . . know that I lack any of the skills to do this BUT..... It would be really wonderful if we could have a menu on the front page of the main site that allowed the reader to select the language he prefers. The site would then change to a Spanish one (or whatever). Most of the content would be different to the English one to save on translation hassle. Spanish men could provide the content from Spanish blogs just as is done in English. Only major texts would be translated. Spanish is also the second language of the USA. Like it or not, the USA is the major world power right now so we must concentrate much of our fire here. |
| Palabra |
Mar 27 2007, 10:56 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 26-March 07 Member No.: 705 |
I just found an inconsistency that you might want to fix:
QUOTE By instilling masculinity in men, we make men self-reliant, proud, and independent. By instilling femininity in women, we make them nurturing, supporting, and responsible. The problem is that you want women to be nurturing and supporting, but you don't say whom or what they should support. If men are supposed to be self-reliant and independent, then women cannot be nurturing of them or support them, as that would diminish the self-reliance and independence of men. I think you should specify - what or whom are women nurturing and supporting? The way you have it set up seems to imply that women should nurture and support men, which is inconsistent with the masculine ideal that you wish to instill in men. Similarly, you don't say of what or whom men should be proud or for what or whom women should be responsible. Those don't create any inconsistencies, but they are rather vague. Just a suggestion. |
| Laboratory Mike |
Mar 28 2007, 08:30 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: MGTOW Posts: 178 Joined: 22-September 06 From: Iowa, USA Member No.: 84 |
I just found an inconsistency that you might want to fix: The problem is that you want women to be nurturing and supporting, but you don't say whom or what they should support. If men are supposed to be self-reliant and independent, then women cannot be nurturing of them or support them, as that would diminish the self-reliance and independence of men. I think you should specify - what or whom are women nurturing and supporting? The way you have it set up seems to imply that women should nurture and support men, which is inconsistent with the masculine ideal that you wish to instill in men. Similarly, you don't say of what or whom men should be proud or for what or whom women should be responsible. Those don't create any inconsistencies, but they are rather vague. Just a suggestion. To answer this question for you and future readers... I think you are reading too much into the word "dependence." While feminism might imply that "independent women don't need a man," implying that women should have nothing to do with a man, we don't make the same claim. Instead, I would say that the male-female relationship is meant to be complimentary, with the two parts adding into a bigger whole. In the current culture though, it is understood that men will be hard pressed to find a woman that they can enter into such a relationship with. Therefore, instead of chaining oneself to a woman who does not appreciate her man, it would be better to go our own way, hence the idea of MGTOW. Independence is not separatism. |
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Mar 29 2007, 06:11 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: MGTOW Posts: 55 Joined: 25-June 06 From: London and Essex. Member No.: 39 |
There is something of a paradox in relations between the sexes. Generally, the more emotionally stable and independent a man is, the more he will be attractive to the other sex. She will test him and put him through hoops but she wants a strong man not a lapdog.
Thus a man's 'independence' brings the sexes together. It has nothing to do with the insecure posturing of the feminists that is based upon unmet need. A man may be self reliant and independent on the emotional level and yet still be a good husband and father. In fact he can be relied upon if he is. Who should women nurture? It is up to them. Whoever deserves it. |
| julie |
Aug 24 2007, 10:11 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 24-August 07 Member No.: 2,467 |
All sounds good
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