OMK:Growth of MGTOW Options

[Rob Case]

In Cultural Creep, which I posted in February, I mentioned that I had done a Google search of the term 'MGTOW' and 23,600 results were returned.

A Google search on the same term today returns 41,200 results - an increase of 75% in only 6 months. If only my stocks had done so well.

I've been checking every week or so in the interim, and the growth has been steady over that period. I'd have to say that the climate has already altered since then, with writers like Stephen Baskerville, Steve Moxon and Kathleen Parker getting some serious attention. Comment counts on Glenn Sacks blog have gone astronomical, with some threads attracting over 600. Here in NZ, the incumbent Feminist government looks set to be trounced in the impending October/November election, with the likely conservative opposition party promising to end welfare to single mothers as soon as their youngest goes to school.

The ice is thawing.

From: One Man's Kingdom

[Egghead]

In Cultural Creep, which I posted in February, I mentioned that I had done a Google search of the term 'MGTOW' and 23,600 results were returned.

A Google search on the same term today returns 41,200 results - an increase of 75% in only 6 months. If only my stocks had done so well.

I've been checking every week or so in the interim, and the growth has been steady over that period. I'd have to say that the climate has already altered since then, with writers like Stephen Baskerville, Steve Moxon and Kathleen Parker getting some serious attention. Comment counts on Glenn Sacks blog have gone astronomical, with some threads attracting over 600. Here in NZ, the incumbent Feminist government looks set to be trounced in the impending October/November election, with the likely conservative opposition party promising to end welfare to single mothers as soon as their youngest goes to school.

The ice is thawing.

From: One Man's Kingdom

Wow!

[Ragnar]

Wow!

The ice is thawing

Yeah, the present Global Warming is made by Men Going Their Own Way.

[Carnival of reaction.]

Be aware that MGTOW is an aviation term as well

[Type 5]

Be aware that MGTOW is an aviation term as well

A search on "MGTOW -aircraft" yields 37,800 results. Including this interesting item I hadn't seen before:

URBAN DICTIONARY:

1. mgtow


1. men going their own way - applies to all men who don't subscribe to the "traditional lifestyle" i.e. go to school, graduate college, find a girl, settle down, get married, have kids, etc/etc...singular is mghow - man going his own way

2. this term is often used in conjunction with men's rights terminology, as men's rights activists, aka mras, often view the traditional lifestyle as setting them up for failure - w/ 1/2 marriages ending in divorce, approximately 3/4 of those divorces being initiated by the female, and 4/5 of those divorces resulting in child custody for the female and child support being provided by the male... a male who gets married today has a very high chance of being divorced by his wife and never seeing his kids while being forced to support them financially...

3. A sort of motto that punctuates MRA statements...it should be of note that the phrase mgtow is not so much an anti-female acronym as it is geared more towards a general political, economic, and cultural system that fails both males and females...

4. Used to describe men who live as ghosts, that is, work and try to avoid people/blend in (similar to robert deniro in taxi driver), expatriate males who choose to live abroad (e.g. johnny depp in France), or even male johns who choose to get all their sexual needs satisfied solely through prostitutes/escorts (what some divorced males wish they did, realizing they would have had more sex and ended up better off financially)...


1. MGTOW is a male reaction to the excesses of feminism.

2/3. Yesterday, my friend got arrested b/c he looked at his roommate funny. She wanted her boyfriend to sleep over, and wanted the entire apartment for herself that evening. He had an early interview the following morning and upset, told her that she was inconsiderate and selfish. Feeling guilty, she got revenge by calling the police and telling them that she felt "scared" around her roommate. Cops came and booked his ass. That's VAWA (violence against women act) for you. Just goes to show you, not only should you not marry women these days, you shouldn't even risk living with them . Get the hell out of the states, and go somewhere where you don't go to jail for looking at a girl "funny" - MGTOW.

4. Yep, Doug is a MGHOW. He left the states, got a job in Thailand as a freelance web designer and spends all of his free time banging hookers. I don't think he's ever going to settle down or get married, man.

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Interestingly, I googled the term and found just over 20,000 enteries. The great majority were the non aviation sort.

The Liberal establishment do not seep to have noticed our existance yet! I am not sure if this is good or bad- I had expected some 'why men going their own way have small dicks' articles. I guess we have these to look forward too.

MGTOW is now an established brand. It is harder to kill a brand than an organization.

[Ragnar]

MGTOW is now an established brand. It is harder to kill a brand than an organization.

You just made me remember the day when I worked on the logo and talked to one of my friends who has a bussiness degree in 'Public Releations and Advertising' (actually this is just what I think his education is!).
He told me that the logo should be simple, easy recognisable and that we shouldn't worry about patenting it. Because it is more important to form the brand and connect the logo to a certain meaning than any legal measure.

This is actually what is happening to the acronym - first used by Zenpriest - MGTOW is starting to mean Men Going Their Own Way not 'max gross take off weight' (expect for aviation personnel).

This is a major step for us and it doesn't mean much that men put a little different meaning into the philosophy of MGTOW.

The branding is important!

[Meikyo]

You just made me remember the day when I worked on the logo and talked to one of my friends who has a bussiness degree in 'Public Releations and Advertising' (actually this is just what I think his education is!).
He told me that the logo should be simple, easy recognisable and that we shouldn't worry about patenting it. Because it is more important to form the brand and connect the logo to a certain meaning than any legal measure.

This is actually what is happening to the acronym - first used by Zenpriest - MGTOW is starting to mean Men Going Their Own Way not 'max gross take off weight' (expect for aviation personnel).

This is a major step for us and it doesn't mean much that men put a little different meaning into the philosophy of MGTOW.

The branding is important!

I think this follows the outcome of the initial foundations that MGTOW was built on - a product to be marketed using the brand.

[Ragnar]

I think this follows the outcome of the initial foundations that MGTOW was built on - a product to be marketed using the brand.

Have often thought of how right you were in suggesting we should market it as a product and focus on the branding.

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Continueing with the business anolgy for a while...

Feminism was sucessful because its leaders could approach the outside world and offer them an afluent demographic that was not being sold to.

Feminists are usually middle class. They generaly reject family life. If they have children they receive money for them and if they do not they can devote themselves to their careers.

They tend to spend less on beauty than other women, and so they have high disposable incomes.

How might a company sell to them?

They do it by becomming feminist themselves!

The same applies to the state. The state is always seeking to increase its control over the individual and so the state also became feminist to exploit this new client group- inventing new needs to be adressed through state power.

Now with MGTOW we can pull the same trick.

Our disposable incomes are also large- because we do not buy commercial crap. We also have values that can be sold to (freedom and simplicity).

Once advertisers become aware we exist we can expect them to present MGTOW in a good light.

Once it starts it will move quite quickly.

[Ragnar]

A search on "MGTOW -aircraft" yields 37,800 results. Including this interesting item I hadn't seen before:

It is amazing how the idea spreads and takes so many forms, which are basicly the same.

We have hit something that is very basic male. The drive to do something on your own!

The 'funny' part is that men instinctively understand that freedom alone can be less rewarding than freedom in cooperation. So this is what many me does.

This takes it to a whole new level where no feminist can follow.


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They do it by becomming feminist themselves!

The same applies to the state. The state is always seeking to increase its control over the individual and so the state also became feminist to exploit this new client group- inventing new needs to be adressed through state power.

Now with MGTOW we can pull the same trick.

CoR

Good suggestions.
Are there any avenues of action we should follow here?

[Carnival of reaction.]

We could identify needs that MGTOW men have that could be satisfied at a profit.

For instance.

1) Asset protection (hiding assets ext).

2) Relocation. There must be many men who have already located to non feminist lands. Some of them probably even run guest houses ext.

3) Simple living requires a degree of capital expenditure (solar pannels ext). This could become another business for a man.

Imagen a nationwide advert by a travel company offering men a new life away from feminism! Imagen how many men would come out and tralise it was talking to them!!

[Ragnar]

We could identify needs that MGTOW men have that could be satisfied at a profit.

For instance.

1) Asset protection (hiding assets ext).

2) Relocation. There must be many men who have already located to non feminist lands. Some of them probably even run guest houses ext.

3) Simple living requires a degree of capital expenditure (solar pannels ext). This could become another business for a man.

Imagen a nationwide advert by a travel company offering men a new life away from feminism! Imagen how many men would come out and tralise it was talking to them!!

Hehe, that would be nice.

Long time ago we talked about a MGTOW bank. Think it was in connection with Seasteads and living in the oceans. It would be nice to have a man-friendly bank to help you with some asset protection.

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A bank would be the hardest of all enterprises to set up. These are highly regulated in the US so would find it hard to differ from any other. MGTOW tends to be suspicious of the Federal reserve and fractional banking. This would create further problems.

A guest house in Mexico or Thailand seems a much better option. This could be run in a properly decentralised way by a man going his own way. Big Dave from Duckingstool.com runs his website out of Thailand to avoid legal hassles.

[Ragnar]

I know a BANK would be a huge enterprise to set up, and I don't know if the present economic situation will forbid it.
Anyway it just came to memory.

A 'mens shelter' would be possible on a local basis and I'm actually looking into it myself.